Thursday, March 18, 2010

Thursday - Sweating the Small Stuff

There's been quite a few comments this week about the "new" rules that teachers have been emphasizing this week (like no headphones, no cell phones, etc.) When teachers met this past Monday morning and agreed to recommit ourselves to enforcing the district policies, several of us argued that it was important to "sweat the small stuff, so we won't have as much big stuff" to deal with.

This argument is essentially the broken window effect - click here for details.

What do you think? Do you think it's a good idea for us to "sweat the small stuff?"

64 comments:

  1. No, Sweating the small stuff only leads to missing the big stuff because you are to busy being focused on the small stuff...
    And another thing, how about you FIX the big stuff before you start to go after the small stuff
    - Jaylen Fuentes

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  2. His got a beautiful voice mind :') <-- (This shows how dumb Youtube commentors are)
    By sweat the small stuff do you mean let drip away until they're nothing?

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  3. I think is good but i am sure. I don't reflect that it's good idea to sweat the small stuff.
    -Nelson Mandela

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  4. Im not Really Sure
    -grant swix

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  5. Part of me really believes that teachers should ignore phones and such, & that kids will learn/work on what they want to learn/work on, regardless of if they have something electrical directly entertaining them. They'll find something else, like talking in person. Which is more distracting to more people.
    You're never going to get EVERYONE or even close to it, to put their stuff away, I just don't think it'll ever work. They're too engrained in us now.
    Personally I'd rather be allowed to text occasionally without problem & still be able to focus, than have a teacher stop every time they see a phone.
    - jillian janis

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  6. i think it good that your teachers are back to the old rule because some poeple can make so many noise and can affect their classmate while they trying to learn something

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  7. I would say we shouldnt, ive always thought that we were never aloud to have headphones(unless told you could) and cell phones. I think people that get caught with them shouldnt get away with it, if you get caught with your phone you should not sweat that.
    -Chris Pfeifer-

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  8. Sweating the "small stuff" is what keeps our school orderly and looking good. No parents want to have their student's teacher tell them their kid is failing beause of his cell phon.

    Seriously- it's not like it's hard to pay attention in class and save those things for home.
    --Sarah Kimmel

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  9. I think people should not sweat small stuff because sometimes things are not always what they seem.

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  10. I agree with Jaylen Fuentes, if you want to fix the small stuff, start concentrating on the big stuff. As you cover the whole issue, you'll solve the smaller ones.

    - Melissa Scenga

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  11. i think its good so the kids will pay attension more in class so its good

    -Jose Pena

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  12. you should not sweat the small stuff because, yo will be missing the big picture. listening to your ipod in the hallway is completely different then listening to it in the classroom.

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  13. First of all, what exactly are "the small stuff"? These things that everyone think are "small" add up to very big problems, don't they? So sure, why not? Let's sweat the "small stuff," as people like to call them. But whatever it is, if it is sweated it will not develope into a huge headache. So yes, let's sweat!

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  14. I understand the whole issue with headphones, cell phones and hats. Although, when it comes to kids walking down the hallway with their cell phone or headphones or hat in use i don"t understand the big deal if the student is willing to not use them in class. Another thing i find really dumb is as students we are not allowed to use them before school and we get them taken away if they are visible. Now as far as class goes I agree we should not be using them in class but even if they are showing teachers flip out. I mean thats quite ridiculous for teachers to have the right to take students devicies when they are visible in class, i mean they just assume we are using them or they assume we are goingto use them; what happened to innocent until proven guilty!

    -Courtney M.

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  15. I think its too late for teachers to enforce rules now. If for most of the year the teacher didn't care if you had your cell phone out, then no one is going to take that teacher seriously when all of a sudden s/he asks for a students phone the student is not going to take s/her serious and that will just cause more problems. My advice is just let it go for the rest of the year (until i graduate) and enforce the rules next year from the start to the end.
    -Abdelaziz Adawe-

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  16. don't they know that, even with this rule enforced, students still aren't going to follow it? Teacher's and staff should know that by now.. so no use of making a big deal, just leave it the way it was...

    -- Jeremy Vang

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  17. I think we should be able to use our electronics like after our work is all done I mean if we have it all done then what's the problem? It's just a bunch of bull

    -Aundrea M.

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  18. The "new" rules??? These rules have been in effect for a long time, No one is going to listen! So i dont see a big point in sweating the small stuff.

    -Morgan Collins

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  19. A teacher teaches, that what they should focus on

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  20. - no. because if you sweat the small stuff then you will create big stuff.

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  21. I dont think its a good idea because i doubt the students are going to listen and its not really a big deal anyways unless students are being a distraction in class with their electronics

    ~Fatma Osman

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  22. Well since im about to graduate, Teachers should sweat the small stuff because it only takes one student to distract the other students from what their doing.

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  23. i dont think the teachers should be sweating the small things such as cell phones and headphones, because if there all worried about the little things then there missing the bigger stuff thats happening. As long as the students arent using there devices in class and its a distraction then the teachers shouldnt sweat it.

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  24. Well, i think that it's kind of a good thing at some point and some at some point it's not because we should get to listen listen to it during a test or something therefore we can concentrate.

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  25. Even though if teachers still tried to sweat the small stuff students still don't care. Some would rather go to the principles office then give it up so it really wouldn't matter.

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  26. Stop going on and on about the small crap
    and worry about big crap.

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  27. if you gonna make it fair to everybody than yeah..but this teachers dont... but us senoirs ready to roll out this daddy....

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  28. I think that teachers shouldn't sweat the small stuff. If the students don't want to learn then there is no way to make them. But if the students do want to learn and their phone is just removing their attention completely then it becomes a problem that should be taken care of. In that case students should fallow the small rules in class but during classes or anytime when the students are not learning there should be exceptions instead of removing them completely.
    -Annaleana Green 3rd Hour

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  29. maybe it might help but i think sweating the small stuff is not an good idea

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  30. If its not a huge problem then don't worry until it does big a huge problem because as for right now its not causing anything.
    -Pa Vang

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  31. Students--teenagers--will always misbehave. It's almost as if a hatred for rules, regulations, and restrictions is encrypted into our DNA. "Sweating the small stuff" could really swing either way.

    One: The students progressively get worse because they have teachers/staff members always harping on them to put away their cell phones, earbuds, etc. Or. . .

    Two: Perhaps the students will actually get the message and start leaving the unwanted electronics at home (or at least put away).

    However, there are new Freshman every year who are not accustomed to these rules. And, when you think about it, it seems to take the entire four years for students to learn the rules anyways. Seems like a waste of time, right?

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  32. HELL NO!
    Sweating the small stuff is just forcing more restrictions on the students, essentially forcing out more rebellious attitudes from the students. There is no reason to be so strict on trivial things. Lets take a second to view the students side of these mandatory "rules".

    1.Hats
    Censoring an individuals personal style for absolutely no beneficial gain other than limiting a form of expression.

    2.Electronics
    I agree that there are times when it is unacceptable, such as tests, lectures, etc. But if we were to finish a writing piece, or any other assignment early, there is absolutely no reason for us to be confined from whipping out our iPod and listening to a bit of music.

    3.This TERRIBLE attendance policy.
    Why in anyone's sane mind possibly suspend someone for being tardy. You are better off just not going to a class. What is the point in sending someone away from a class period to another part in the building, they still miss out on class none the less. Lunch detention, bad idea, perhaps you can have them do something productive, such as a community service thing, cleaning perhaps?

    If we don't focus on these so strictly, it would be a possibility that we could focus on bigger things, things that actually have an effect, rather than trivial things that have absolutely no benefit by preventing.

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  33. The broken window was a pretty good example and made me change my first thought which was to not sweat the small stuff. I think it would make sense and we should sweat the small stuff.

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  34. I feel that if the "small stuff" is going to be enforced now when we have come this far in the school year then it should have started at the beginning of the year and been continued all the way through. The new rules always last for most teachers about oif week or two but then sonn just fade away.But also some teachers never enforce anything from the jump start.... So why try to sweat the small stuff now when it's pretty much a habit for the students to ignore the rules as well as some of the staff does.

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  35. I think that although sweating the small stuff becomes very annoying, it is still important.If we deal with the issue while it is still small, then we will have less bigger issues to deal with. After all, that is the goal isn't it !?

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  36. there are worse things the students can be doing, instead of txting or listening to music. Those small things will get the teachers attention but they miss the bigger things happening

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  37. If its not a huge problem then don't worry until it does big a huge problem because as for right now its not causing anything.

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  38. yes i think its highly efficient if we sweat the small stuff because its irrelevant to what we are trying to maintain at school. As long as students are doing what they need to do whats the problem. I think they should worry more about big things like tardiness and attendance and grades.


    -Jordan Wallace

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  39. If its not a huge problem then don't worry until it does big a huge problem because as for right now its not causing anything.

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  40. I think its a good thing to "sweat the small stuff" but there are some things that you should "sweat".

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  41. i understand that teachers dont like students using ipods and cell phones, but im tired of hearing teachers say the is pulling attention away from the rest of the classes learning. if the student is using there ipod/cell phone then they really dont care about what is happening in class and the teacher should just give up arguing with that student and go on doing there job, which is to "Teach".
    ~Derek Lewis~

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  42. no, how does a cellphone prevent big issues?
    if the school wants to improve there are other biger issues like people walking the hallways with no pass but security doesn't seem to mind, that could be an issue, if someone has headphones who cares? how about just sweat the big stuff?

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  43. yeah, i dont think you guys should sweat the small things, cuz their SMALL!.and were in high school give us a break =]

    -holly jo hendy-

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  44. I dont see why they stress phones so much because yesterday when the incident happened everybody had there phone out textin trying to figure out what happened

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  45. Im going to listen to head phones no matter what. They are gonna have to chase me down to get my head phones

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  46. Rikki Downer =)
    Well in my oppinion I really dont care about it much. Im not one that will really sweat the small stuff. Some people think that it will create more responsibilty or a better society but I dont understand why people take things so seriously.

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  47. No One Will Take My Cell Phone Away From Me I Dont Care Who They Are...
    -Cassandra

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  48. I Think I Understand More From The Example Of The Broken Window But I Still Think It Not A Good Idea For The Sweat The Small Stuff

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  49. Teachers should not care about the small stuff like headphones, cell phones, and hats..You guys should care about the bigger stuff like the tardy issue, litter all over the school, and people getting into fights..

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  50. theres a limit to how much you can just brush off, technically its not a bad decision, i think more tolerance in the school would help students feel more comfortable, and not as hostile every time we come to school, its not to say discard rules, but the rules like hats, i mean hats arent distracting anyone, bothering anyone, little things like that creates small problems, that leads to a big issue with the students, we just are not comfortable anymore, all the restrictions and regulations that are applied every so often, the shcool may think is a good decision, but in actuality its creating a more hostile enviornment towards students, some will even not attend

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  51. I don't think we should really care about the small stuff I mean if u see someone listening to music or texting in class who cares. Its there education and its not like the worlds gona end if someone whips out their cell phone either.
    So I think we should be worrying about bigger issues like breaking up fights and actually getting people to class . Kay thanks bye :)
    Dannyel Forman <3

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  52. No i dont think you guys should sweat the small stuff because if you do then there just going to turn into big stuff ;

    -Marissa A;*

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  53. mikey b
    i think that if its not an import thing like a test or something why not allow kids to use there head phones or phones as long as they are getting there work done it makes the day a little more bearable for us and if we are distracted with that then we wont be bothering you by throwing stuff around or causing big problems

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  54. Nah, small stuff is small stuff, worry about big things, if we want to learn, we will learn. Personally I don't use my cellphone if I am trying to get my work done, i save it for afterwards. Music actually encourages me to keep working, its constant, its normally fast, and it keeps my mind off of side conversations. So, no, stop sweating the small stuff.

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  55. I believe we shouldn't sweat the small stuff. We need to focus the bigger issues. It doesn't make sense for someone to get suspended over a cell phone in class when there's people skipping in the hallways all day not getting disciplined. If someone wants to listen to their Ipod and fail, that's their decision. At least its not distracting the people in class who want to learn. Unlike kids running the halls yelling and screaming.

    -Rosalia Juarez-Yuen

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  56. I agree with JT. If students actually care to learn and about their education, they will make an effort to do so. Music encourages many students to continue to work. Especially when its silent, some people have trouble concentrating so they make side conversations, which in turn distracts others.

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  57. I agree that if someone wants to listen to their Ipod and fail or text all day, that's their decision. An Ipod or cell phone isnt a distraction to other students. They are keeping quiet its distracting them from being loud and annoying & seriously distracting others. They should focus on the idiots being loud and running in the hall ways. Or the 20 hundred kids that are always skipping in the bathrooms.

    -Brittany Dyer.

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  58. i agree. i personaly perform better by listening to my ipod. It makes me focus more.

    J. Hill

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  59. Yesterday was crazy.the fact that theres people out there that have guns and want to hurt people scare me. SAY NO TO GUNS!!!

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  60. ~abigail de la p.~
    I agree that if someone want to listen to their ipod and text all day,that their decision.because it is a distracting other students.

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  61. Well for me it really doesnt matter cuz I dont use the phone a lot during classes wana focus on school work but sometimes I do use it if the teacher not lookin if I have emergency and also whn the class gets soo boring. I think if they let student use the phone all that it will keep them from learning so I think when student in class time for them to learn and they can text other times during lunch or break. thats all
    ~Shakira K~

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  62. I agree. I do like listening to music when we have down time in class. It helps me focus.

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